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(@mightytoft)
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The team is playing well vs team are playing well, which one is correct? Can I use both?

 
Posted : 21/06/2013 6:51 pm
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According to this BBC Learning website you can use the singular or plural verb form with some collective nouns such as 'team'.

They suggest that when you talk about a team as an impersonal group then the singular form is often used (the team is...); while if you see the team as a group of individual players then the plural form is used (Spurs are playing well...).

Here are some examples from today's Guardian football page:

a. 'It's reasonably easy to understand why a team gets caught on a break...'

b. 'PSG have known for weeks about Ancelotti's desire to join Madrid and they have been engaged in a ...'

c. 'Real have not hidden their desire to sign Bale...'

 
Posted : 22/06/2013 12:47 pm
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But do fans see their team as an impersonal group?

 
Posted : 01/07/2013 9:53 pm
(@niklas)
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THis has been discussed a few times on a board where i used to post a lot with posters from all over the world and the consensus was in BE more often thna not teams, enterprises etc are viewed as a group of people and thus the plural form would be used "Spurs are eyeing to sign a new player", while in AE as far as I know the singular form is a must, even. I ve even seen grammar trivias where the use of plural was corrected for being false but thats AE only, imho.

 
Posted : 02/07/2013 12:15 am
(@grell)
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I have also heard about the difference in the use of singular/plural with team between British English and American English, and I would broadly agree that 'Liverpool are...' is more common than 'Liverpool is...' amongst BE speakers.

 
Posted : 03/07/2013 7:09 am
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I would agree with Tdol that fans do not see their team as an impersonal group. For instance, I would often use 'we' or 'us' to talk about my favourite team, i.e very much a personal matter. Therefore, Tottenham are playing well/badly.

Thanks Niklaus for the comment on AE and BE use, which would suggest the following:
Brazil wins the Confederation Cup (AE)
Brazil win the Confederations Cup (BE)

 
Posted : 03/07/2013 3:23 pm
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The team of  footballers vs the team of students vs the team of soldiers which one is correct

 

 
Posted : 27/05/2024 12:15 pm
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It is the competition that Real Madrid like to think they own and the reasons (Guardian June 1 2024)

In this sentence from the match report in The Guardian newspaper, they use both singular and plural forms:

  • Real Madrid like to think
  • they own
 
Posted : 02/06/2024 9:44 am
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Madrid reset at half-time and when they started to press

The same here - Madrid reset and then 'they' started to press

 
Posted : 02/06/2024 9:45 am

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